Having been told on Tuesday night at Holbrook by both the Manager and his assistant that a certain midfield player was "unavailable due to work commitments" it was with some suprise that after the end of Saturdays match that I was informed by a member of the Clipstone team that the same player had in fact turned out for South Normanton that same night. What is further annoying was when the same midfield player was sbstituted early in the second half of Saturdays game, just in time for him to make what was his fastest move of the afternoon to watch the Grand National in the bar!

If this is true then why did the Management team have to be dishonest and say he was working and why did he get his shirt back on Saturday and whats more to the point will he be given a shirt on Wednesday?

If this player wishes to play for South Normanton in preference to The Lions so be it but why are we contuinuing to play him when it has been obvious for all to see that over the past couple of months that his performance has been less than acceptable.

Answers please Messrs Rogers & Kelsey!!!

Excellent comment.
Firstly, I did not lie to anyone after the Hobrook game. Giz was unavailable due to work, according to Giz. He was supposed to play but didn't turn up and now we know the reasons why. In fact I found out later that night. It was not my intention to mislead anyone, least of all myself.
His selection on Saturday was due to an apology from Giz and assurance he wouldn't repeat this incident. He was also selected due to player unavaiability and I understood he was going to be on the bench but drop outs meant otherwise. Unfortunately i'm away in the USA with work at the moment so cannot tell you anymore. I am also missing for the semi on Wednesday so cannot tell you anything on selection. This is Micks region for that particular game.
Currently Heanor are having a big player rotation. This is not healthy and this stems right from the start of the season with not having a settled squad. As management we're being extremely patient with CERTAIN players at the moment but this will stop in the new season. Our ambition is to mandate training with the selection process. To become much more professional we need the backing of the committee.
We are frustrated with CERTAIN players at the moment but it's not as easy as you think to simply leave players out when the season is nearing an end. However this does tell us what we need to know for next season. We're in the process of securing players within the squad. The ones we feel are good enough and loyal enough. As i've said before, we're alos securing players from other teams. This we never had last season.
I wish I was there Wenesday but i'm not and I wish the lads all the best. They are good enough if motivated, so let's motivate them from the dressing room to the supporters. After a very hard season, let's put a trophy in the cabinet and build on what we've got.
Kelsey

It was interesting to see that Giz's name was in the South Normanton Team on saturday instead of the Lions Team, what was his excuse for not playing this week? 'Golfing'

I wonder if he will re-appear for the cup final at the end of the season. Seems like players tend to pick and choose their games. You seem to know Giz best messer Kelsey, myself and i am sure many other people are interested in what excuse there is this time.

Yes we knew Giz played for South Normanton on Saturday. Giz was not in the Heanor team due to him playing for South Normanton the other week in preference to Heanor.
Mick was not aware Giz had let us down for the Holbrook game and had played for SN until much later and felt this was not in the best interest of Heanor so has made the decision to leave Giz out for the remainder of the season. I, however did find out but as I was away with work for the next two weeks I left the issue to be solved between Mick and Giz in the hope a resolution could be found.
We are currently in the middle of a mini injury crisis. We have minor groin and Hamstring strains together with ankle injuries. We're trying to keep the players fit for the final so we have a strong a team as possible but this is difficult with the amount of games.
No other player has let the club down. The two guys that helped us out against Holbrook were not available the following week hence they were not selected. Other non attendance all had good reason, allbeit sometimes a bit late in withdrawing from the squad.
It may look somewhat disjointed at the moment as the season comes to a finale but we know where we want to be next season and we're working hard right now to develop the squad. The final is a welcome distraction and I think our one success.

TRANSLATION OF THE ABOVE POST:

Giz has stabbed us in the back, and instead of lettin him twist it, we are letting him do whatever he pleases and we won't ever see him again! We are letting one of the most oversized ego-tastic players ruin what we see on matchdays. Goodbye Nick, its turning into what happened between Chris Henson and Mick at vics. no chance of ever seeing either of them 2 players again.

I for one am very dissapointed Giz is still not with Heanor. He didn't try to twist anything or anyone, he made a big mistake and has been punished the only way you can at this level.
Giz still wants to be a part of Heanor and did apologise but too late. He had his reasons which I cannot disclose.
He only played for SN saturday as he had no game with Heanor. I am not defending him and Micks decision is the right one, but I still hope there is a way back. I'm trying to get these two talking and look for resolve. I doubt it will come but you never know.
You may disagree, but that's opinions!!!
The lad himself is likeable but sometimes not reliable. Who out there feels Giz should be given another chance??? Would you be happy if he was playing for Heanor next season or not???

Comments would be appreciated. I love to opinions guys no matter what and this forum offers that.

SPOT ON HEANOR RED & STEVE.
Kelsey what are you waffling on about, stop beating around the bush and stop talking nonsense for once.
We all new this sorry episode was going to end like this as Giz has never been true to any club and as soon as his sugar daddy Mark Harvey clicked his fingers he would go running back. As for you do you think all us Heanor fans are stupid as to think that YOU did not know Giz was going to turn out for South Normanton in the midweek game, after all you are supposedly very good friends with Mr Harvey who is part of the South Normanton management team .
Why did you think it appropriate not to inform the manager the minute you found out about Giz does it really matter you was away working a phone call only takes a few seconds ? i thought the management team were supposed to communicate.

Well Pete D and Young Red you have hit the nail right on the head. How cay you believe a guy like Gizzy I believe he is only in it for the money chasing a few extra quid here and there he has let more football teams down than iv'e had hot dinners and as they say leopards never change their spots.

If Mick and Kelsey have any brains they will leave well alone as the supporters of the Lions, who have been supportive of them up to now, will turn on them if the persist in picking Gizzy. Believe me there was considerable grumblings about the Gizzy situation at the Dunkirk match on Saturday.

If you havn't noticed Kelsey in his last half dozen or so games he has played in, for the lions that is! Gizzy has not got out of "first gear". His contributions against Hucknall Rolls and Bentley were pathetic I think it's fair to say that a number of the "first team regulars" have been going through the motions rather than getting stuck in recently that is with the exception of the Holbrook game when we saw a first class effort from evey Heanor player on show that night.

As I said on this site back in January 2006 Gizzy would be best hanging up his boots and as for next season, if I were you, I would be more worried about my own position never mind the debate about signing Gizzy or not.

As one supporter said on Saturday, Heanor Colliers would give us a run for our money!

You lot should get facts straight, especially before critising people.
Firstly signing of giz was sorted between myself and Kelsey, and was agreed to be done as a loan, in case he was required by normanton. Everyone concerned was in agreement to this, no seven days went, and giz was able to play for you.
Next giz was asked if he could play saturday for us, but he declined as he did'nt want to let heanor down, he did end up playing for us after he was left out of heanors squad, {not that anyone told him he had been left out, he had to find out off another player}
thirdly myself and kels are very good friends and are in constant touch with each other, myself and giz are also very good friends, which is the main reason we chose to keep apart this season, as giz attitude will always cause bad feeling, if you let it.
The tuesday night in question i had tried to get a message to kelse regarding the situation, but kelse did'nt get the message till it was to late, for that i do take responsability, and have already spoke to kelse regarding this.
Finally Giz is being made a scapegoat by you lot for something thats not his fault. Yes there will always be issues were giz is concerned, if there was'nt he would'nt be playing for heanor or normanton, he is a great talent and should be playing at a higher level, but his commitment holds him back.
You should enjoy him on the pitch, and encourage him to be there, and you will be a better team for it, ask yourself this, do you really want to lose him over this, or try and sort it, he does want to play at heanor and will win you the cup if allowed.
The way some of you are talking your more likely to lose him and kelsey, and that would be a sad day for heanor town.

Feel free to slag me off if you like, but i wish you all the best in the final and next season, and i know if you get behind Kelse and mick they will deliver

MH you are misguided thinking that we are "slagging Gizzy off" or anyone else for that matter, if you had witnessed his performances for Heanor over the last few weeks you would not have put your post on the site or perhaps he is a different player when he turns out for you and you see him in a different light. Maybe the extra few quid he is allegedly paid by South Normanton is the incentive!

Tell you what, you keep him!

Tell you what steve read the previous posts then tell me your not critising anyone, true i have'nt seen giz perform recently for you, but, i think you'd agree i know him better than anyone as far as football is concerned, yes he does get a tenner more if he plays for us, but if it was about money he would have stayed at Greseley, or shepshed. Fortunatly for heanor most supporters have a bit more sense, why don't you just try getting behind the players and management, before its to late.
Don't care what you say giz is a great player, you'd do well to remember that.
Maybe i will....????

M.H we all seem to have the same opinion of you being very misguided,maybe you ought to be contacting our manager M.Rodgers not his assistant Kelsey who by the way is normally late or missing are the pair of you trying to undermine our manager.
If Giz is as good as you say you have the let down and take Mr Kelsey to.

Personally i'd sooner have Gizza playing for us than against us and i for one really hope he's a Heanor player nxt season, we all know what he's capable of, when he's on his game he's awesome, every player has bad games, i just hate all this picking on players and slating them, we should encourage him rather than slag him off, some of the supporters are ruthless and they will never change, its their age me thinks, UP THE LIONS...

This is getting a little carried away I think.
I'm fully behind Mick Ridgers. He is the manager not me, you're quite correct. I should have told Mick earlier I agree. Because I do rate Giz I tried to keep harmony between the two.
My position at the club is simply to advise Mick as he requires or requests it. My work commitments prevent me being available to all games and also on time for certain games. Mick is aware of this and agreed before the season started.
We all cannot agree but I rate Giz and he has been no issue up to this point. You may critisice his performance on occassion but he is one talented player who like Mark says has let himself down in football throughout the years. Surely you cannot tell me Giz has not provided moments of excitement during his time, as have many others in the team.
Anyway, let's move on from Giz. Mick did the right thing, the only issue is my own decision not to tell Mick immediately. I did not know before the Holbrook game by the way.
My own position will be decided at the end of the season by myself, the commitee and probably supporter influence. I hate not being able to commit and contribute more.

MH you refer to me slagging Gizzy off, just take a look at my post of 2nd January 2006 over a year ago when I said I would rather have him in our side (HTFC) than against. I know he his a talant but not turning up for a game is bad enough but telling a deliberate porky to the Manager is inexcusable. If you let him or any other player get away with that sort of behavure you will finish up with a revolt on your hands.

Making excuses for him is not on in my opinion had you wathced him perform over the last few games you would have understood where I am coming from. It isn't fair on the rest of the team expecting him to receive special treatment, remember MH it is a team game.

My last point on this topic which I started is if as you say he gets an extra tenner for playing for Normanton and I have been told that 50 notes is the going rate there, but correct me if i'm wrong, are you implying that he gets 40 at Heanor? If that is the case then I think that there will be a number of unhappy players at the town ground if it's true.

I remain a loyal supporter of Heanor Town Football Club!!!!!!!